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My guesses:

1. Ball is dead once it strikes the batter, who is out because he swung and missed. Runner returns to first.

2. Foul ball.

3. Derek is out.

4. Foul ball.

5. D

6. Fair ball.

7. False. The runner is out. Not sure whether the ball is dead upon striking the runner, though.

Here's mine:

1. Dead ball, strikes out.
2. Ground rule double.
3. Johnny is out, Derek continues.
4. Fair ball.
5. c.
6. Play on!
7. False - dead ball as soon as it touches the guy. The runner's out, and the batter goes to first.

1. Dead ball, strikes out, 2nd base is stolen but he's not allowed to go to third.

2. I believe that if a ball hits a base it's considered in play, so I guess it's a ground-rule double.

3. Johnny is out, Derek still at bat with 3-1 count.

4. Any ball that hits home plate is a foul ball.

5. D

6. Ball is still in play

7. False--dead ball upon contact, the runner is out. Batter goes to first.

I say:

1. strike out, dead ball, runner returns to first base

2. foul ball

3. No one is out. Derek returns to the dugout, and Johnny continues Derek's at bat with a 3-1 count.

4. Fair.

5. C

6. Once some one touches it, or it stops moving, it's a foul ball

7. The runner is not out if the ball passed a fielder, however I do not know if this is a dead ball or not. I will guess live ball.

Oh, wait, #2 says it hits THE front of third base. I thought it said it hits IN front of third base. That's a fair ball, and I have no idea what the ruling is regarding it going out of play. It is not a grounds rule double, because rules of the grounds are determined by the home team. I expect it would be the same for an overthrow: the next base plus one base.

Yeah, I made the same mistake, Matt. Thought is said IN front. I retroactively change my answer to fair, as well.

Terrific post. Here's my wild stab at these questions:

1. Strike 'em out, throw 'em out, on the "run-at-own-risk" rule.

2. Foul ball

3. Skipped batter is forfeited (out), at-bat continues

4. Live ball; batter-runner should have gotten to 1B by now.

5. D

6. Foul ball

7. False

And I should further add for No. 2: Fair ball, ground-rule double.

1) Strike out, runner is out at 3rd

2) Fair ball, I think it's the discretion of the umpire what base the runner ends up on?

3) Johnny is out, Derek's AB continues

4) Fair ball

5) D

6) Foul ball

7) False

For number 2, I'll say I think runner ends up at 2nd.

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I think it's funny that the question for Rod's No. 1 answer is "Curt Schilling's middle name."

Obviously, you are NOT smarter than a 6th grader, let alone a 10th grader!!

If you were, you would have used the proper word in your question "THAN" not "THEN".


it looks as though the answer key has changed since last year. those damn 11th graders.

1) Strike out, dead ball when it hits the batter. Umpire call on whether the runner gets second based on where they were between the bases.

2) Ground rule double

3) Derek out, Johnny out

4) Fair ball

5) c

6) Foul ball

7) True

And I will argue to the death any answer that's wrong :)

Thanks Mark, it has been corrected.

A YF, you have one wrong and part of another wrong. I will not tell you which ones because I don't want to give away the answers quite yet. I would say pay closer attention to the wording. Unfortunately there is no gray area in the 1 1/2 you have incorrect. But overall, nice job.

So far there is only one person who has all 7 correct.

Thanks, John! Do I take my trophy now, or...? ;-)

I love these quizzes. Let's see....

1. The play is dead. The runner has to return to first base.

2. If the ball hits the base, it is considered to be a fair ball.

3. Tough one. I think that if the AB is not completed, the opposing team can put up the proper hitter who will come to the plate with a 3-1 count.

4. Foul ball!

5. I think the answer's C. That's a stumper.

6. Foul ball!

7. True?

My high school coach would give a similar quiz.

1) dead ball, runner back to first.

2) ground rule double (fair ball because it hit third, then grd because it went out of play into the dugout)

3) Count is still 3 and 1, but Johnny is out, due to batting out of order.

4)fair ball

5)c

6)foul ball

7)FALSE

1. Batter is out; dead ball, runner returns to 1st.

2. Ground Rule Double

3. Derek sent back to bench; Johnny takes AB with 3-1 count.

4. Fair Ball

5. D

6. Fair ball, ball's in play

7. False; dead ball, runner is out, batter awarded 1st base.

1)Batter and runner are out

2)Fair ball

3)Jeter is out
4)Foul ball
5) d)Both a and b.

6)Fair ball

7)False--the runner going from 1st-2nd is out

My best guesses:

1. Double play. No reason the ball should be dead just because it hit a swinging batter.

2. Ground-rule double.

3. Johnny takes over and assumes a 3-1 count.

4. I think that's a foul ball.

5. D.

6. I think that's a foul ball too.

7. False. Unclear language, but if the batted ball hit the runner, the runner's out.

Damn! Yeah, as I've thought about it, the runner in the first question goes back to first. I think!

I'm guessing I have #3 wrong too. Seems like if the AB isn't completed, there's no outs and the AB continues with the correct batter. In that case, Coach, is it the right thing to alert the ump or wait until the Ab completes? Then what happens?

So I'm thinking that makes Matt (which we all know is just a pseudonym of SF to avoid possible embarrassment) the winner. But, might I add, that's after lots of qualifications and then an after the fact correction! :)

I just realized that my answers are how i would WANT the rules to work, and not based on any actual knowledge of the rules' intricacies. whoops!

1. Batter is out, ball is dead, runner takes 2nd base
2. ground rule double
3. jeter and damon are both out
4. foul ball
5. C
6. ground rule double
7. false: runner is out, hitter gets 1st base

I'm sensing a chance here to promote my book All-New Baseball Brainteasers, which has 60 quite humorous and challenging rules questions just like this. Wouldn't it be funny if I got any of these easy questions wrong? Let's find out:

1. Strikeout and deadball. Runner doesn't advance.
2. Ground rule double
3. Johnny comes in to bat inheriting the 3-1 count.
4. Fair ball.
5. C
6. Foul ball
7. True. Although I'd say not enough info, because the second baseman may be playing far enough over that this would become false. But with that caveat, let's go with true.

I agree with Ump! (was waiting for his answers for the last 4 hours)

Nick - I've been watching Family Guy. Sorry to keep you waiting.

Answers are now posted above. Thanks to everyone who participated.

Man, I got totally pwned by that list. Great fun though!

Ump, please post a link to your book.

I figured in the day of Amazon and search engines, the title was enough. Here it is on the publisher's website:

http://www.sterlingpublishing.com/catalog?isbn=9781402731013

Enjoy!

I remember that book, I won a free one last year in a similar contest!

I am surprised by how many people wrote "ground rule double." They are grounds rules, being that they refer specifically to the rules for the grounds (or stadium), and are separate from the rules of the game. For instance, somewhere in the rules of the game it will say that a batter is awarded home for a ball that leaves the grounds (I assume--I never read the rules!), but it is the home team that decides what technical constitutes leaving the grounds. In that way, every home run (that is not an inside the parker) is technically a grounds rule home run.

Thank you for this quiz, it was very fun. More, please.

My understanding is that there are two meanings to ground rule. There are the ground rules, which are the rules unique to the grounds (things like whether a ball is out of play if it goes on top of the tarp). Then there is the ground rule double, which is a double because it hits the ground before bouncing over the fence. The home team cannot change ground rule doubles. And a home team cannot change a home run (provided the fence is more than 250 feet away from the plate). Other than that, congratulations Matt on getting it right.

I think, along with the "ground" that Ump states, the usage of "ground-rule double" as a phrase has evolved to where it refers to any struck ball for which the batter is automatically awarded two bases (except fan interference), regardless of the original meaning of the word.

Holy cow! I agree with Paul SF! :)

I believe the correct term actually is "automatic double". Or at least, that's the term I use when two bases are awarded for a hit that becomes a dead ball.

Lanny Fratere, the Pirates' play-by-play man, refers to a ball bouncing over the fence as a "book rule double" to distinguish it from any "grounds rules" dealing with the particular venue.

So, how did the kids do? Better or worse than the group here?

Nate, I won't know until tomorrow. State rule says we cannot practice until the first Friday of the month. I will keep you guys posted!

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