Making Plans for 2016?

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[Paul SF]

He's got my vote. ;-)

Assuming they lift that silly outdated natural-born citizen requirement by then, of course.

[no sleep til brooklyn SF]

Papi can't be El Presidente unfortch. Must be a natural born citizen. Maybe Secretary of the Interior?

[Devine]

If they get rid of the natural-born citizen requirement, Schwarzenegger WILL be prez. I would wager money.

[Paul SF]

Me, too, Devine.

There's no earthly reason I can think of why we should continue to bar people born in other countries from running for president as long as they've been citizens of the U.S. for 20 years or more.

It's not like a British-born loyalist is going to pull the wool over our electorate and pledge fealty to the Crown.

Papi para El Presidente!

[Atheose]

I would love to see Arnold as president, but I doubt they'll lift that natural-born requirement in my lifetime.

Interestingly enough you don't have to be born in the UK to be Prime Minister, so it's actually possible for someone to be both President of the United States and Prime Minister of Great Britain at the same time. Fun fact for the day.

[Atheose]

By the way, Papi is looking super intellectual with those glasses on. I didn't know he could pull off that look.

[Paul SF]

How do you think the Queen of England would react to being called "bro" during a state visit to the Ortiz White House?

[Devine]

"Lemme tell you somesing, your Mahesty. Dere's a reason you wear that crown...'cause you're a bad motherf*****."

[Atheose]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I can picture Ortiz overseeing peace talks between Israel and Palestine, and they're both arguing back and forth, and suddenly Ortiz gets up and hugs the Jew, then hugs the Muslim, and then the two can't hold back smiles and break out in a joyous group hug.

[FenSheaParkway]

The natural born citizen rule won't be amended. How would future candidates be able to defame their competition for being a foreigner?

Can we get a link to some more pictures of the World Series trophy? In the meantime, I've got one, albeit not at the White House (sorry in advance for the self-promotion):

http://tinyurl.com/yu4gjy

[SoxFan]

"I can picture Ortiz overseeing peace talks between Israel and Palestine, and they're both arguing back and forth, and suddenly Ortiz gets up and hugs the Jew, then hugs the Muslim, and then the two can't hold back smiles and break out in a joyous group hug."

Yes, and then they all don Red Sox caps and shout, "The Yankees Suck!" ;)

[Paul SF]

That's an AP photo, and Yahoo! usually runs large galleries of AP photos. You might look under their sports and Red Sox pages.

[FenSheaParkway]

Here we go, Boston.com put up their photo gallery:

http://tinyurl.com/3d6tg4

[YF]

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/gallery/02_27_08_white_house_visit?pg=11

This one might turn SF into a YF.

[SF]

This one might turn SF into a YF.

Nah, the shirt says 07, so that's at least in the past.

And we can't forget this:

http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2004/07/separated_at_bi.html

[sf rod]

silly political pundits, we all know if you don't play in the field you can't get votes.

[soxgirl]

I'm not a fan of Mr. Bush but how freaking hilarious is it that he thanked Papelbon for wearing pants? And said that Manny wasn't there because his grandmother had died again?

[Paul SF]

I've said it before (probably not here), but I see Bush as a genuinely nice person who would probably get along well with everyone on this blog. Of course, that's not exactly a qualification for the presidency -- or even an indication that one will be a good president.

[YF]

I don't share that assesment Paul, to say the least.

[Devine]

Yeah...to me he comes off as smug. But I'm not exactly unbiased at this point.

[Atheose]

I think Bush would be a great guy to sit around and chat with--especially about baseball. The man was owner of the Rangers, and knows his stuff.

And like Paul says, none of that has anything to do with being a good prez.

[Paul SF]

... or even an indication that one will be a good president.

I don't share that assesment Paul, to say the least.

You read it here first. YF thinks Bush is a great president! ;-)

[SF]

I am with YF. I think Bush would be terrible to sit and have a chat with on baseball, he probably is one of those guys who spins tales that you just know are completely false, like about the time Sammy Sosa came over to his house and did beer funnels made cupcakes and shrinkydinks with Jenna, blah blah blah. Like everything surrounding this guy, the idea that he's a likable fellow you can share a mug of something with is also a big fat myth perpetrated by stenographers.

I bet Bush knows about as much about baseball as he does about almost everything else in the world: nothing. He's a charlatan, that much has been proven. It pervades his entire life.

[no sleep til brooklyn SF]

I keep looking at Papi's slicked back do'. A few more inches and it's Little Richard batting third.

[SoxFan]

"shrinkydinks with Jenna"

I don't know what this is, but it sounds kinky.

[SF]

Shrinkydinks were these plastic things that you would paint then put in the oven and they would curl up and, uh, shrink, until they were like 1/4 the size of the plastic piece you put on the pan before you baked it. They were a stupid, unfun "toy" of my childhood.

I suppose with Sammy Sosa a "shrinkydink" could refer to the collateral damage of PED use. Hadn't thought of that.

[Atheose]

Wily Mo went 1 for 2 today! I miss that right-handed Papi.

[FenSheaParkway]

Bush would be a great person to hang around with for a couple hours, provided those few hours were on a Charles River duck tour and he was the tour guide (note: not the driver). Meaning: he can be pleasant and affable, and seems capable of weaving entertaining BS. But I can't see wanting to have a friendly chat with him, and that's even assuming I was unaware of his political views.

So he excels at these less-than-serious photo ops, like when teams come to celebrate their recent championship. Everyone can just forget for a little while the political situation in Washington, and just bask in (vicariously through their team) Getting To Meet The President. Which is sort of cool when you think about it in an abstract sense.

[Paul SF]

I'm a big fan of the American governmental system, regardless of ideology or political party, so I would find it incredibly cool to meet any president. Heck, even Hoover or Buchanan or Nixon, to pick three awful ones. To me, it's about the office, not who's filling it -- at least when we're talking situations like this.

[dc]

lemme guess...you guys are clinton fans...

[SF]

I love George Clinton. My motto, throughout college, was "free your mind and your ass will follow".

The secret's out, dc, you got me!

[LocklandSF]

A very good friend of mine who works for a public relations group in DC had the opportunity to meet Bush in 2005. He is a staunch Liberal and previous to his visit he literally thought that Bush was the devil incarnate.

What he found was not at all what he expected. He described Bush as one of those men that when he speaks to you, even in a huge crowd, you feel like he's genuinely interested in just you and what you have to say, like you two are the only two people in the room. He said most "important" politicains he's met in DC barely look you in the eye and are always looking around to see if their is somebody more important to talk to, but not Bush.

Also, his boss, who had met Bush briefly years before was amazed when Bush walked up to him, said hi and asked him how he was, using his first name, like you would to an old friend. This is trait I have seen in most successful CEOs, they never forget a name. Which is odd, since we all know how stupid Bush is.

This experience did not change my friend's view of his politics or his ideals, but he did say he finally understood what people saw in him, as misdirected as it may be. He left the encounter with an almost annoying sense that, as a man, he now liked Bush.

He's still the worst president in American history, but thought I would share that with you.

[Nick-YF]

I don't think I'd get along with W. Just thought I'd put that on the record. He might be nice and charming in person, but I know too much about his other life (the public one) to think that he would truly care about what I was saying during a discussion.

[LocklandSF]

Nick, I feel the same and so did my friend.

[Paul SF]

I'll go ahead and say that Buchanan's role as worst president in history is secure. Also, the series of presidents that botched Reconstruction would rank higher in my book.

I also think Bush's perception problem -- i.e., being "stupid," and the divide between how people perceive him one-on-one vs. in a public setting -- comes from his not being a good public speaker, as opposed to any inherent dumbness. I think he's smart enough; it just doesn't translate. I didn't mind that so much early on in his administration. But now, it's just annoying. I'm glad the three main candidates for president can all string together simple sentences in a speech without botching words. It'll be a welcome change for that reason alone.

[LocklandSF]

Paul, I will agree with you that at first it was Bush's inability to speak in a presidential manner that led to his reputation for being an idiot...

BUT...

Then his endless string of idiotic policy decisions and actions kind of removed all doubt.

[LocklandSF]

Reading the transcript, there really are some funny lines from Bush...

"So we welcome Japan's Daisuke here to the South Lawn. (Applause.) His press corps is bigger than mine. (Laughter.) And we both have trouble answering questions in English. (Laughter and applause.)"

[A YF]

When a president is about to leave office with over 80% of the country negative about his job performance, I'd say he's easily in the running for worst ever. His VORP (Value Over Replacement President) so negative that you have to wonder if any random minor league politician (from the House no less) would do a better job.

[LocklandSF]

There are some AWESOME pictures on SOSH from fans that were at the White House yesterday, worth checking out.

Here is a taste!

http://tinyurl.com/2tcmoe

[LocklandSF]

So no gamer for the Red Sox v. BC game today?

Update...

"the Red Sox have opened the game up in the second inning, scoring six runs off Steven Cadoret, who came in to replace starter Ted Ratliff. That included three walks, an infield single by Bobby Kielty, doubles by Pedroia and David Ortiz, and a single by Brandon Moss."

[dc]

worse than jimmy carter?