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Tuesday, May 08, 2007


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I did just see where "WE DON'T NEED HIM" was blown up big on the front of the Herald. But that has nothing to do with the reporters, and again, I have trouble seeing how that's somehow a bad sentiment to have attributed to Schilling.

I took this more as a situation where he was generalizing on purpose to take a thinly veiled shot at CHB specifically. In other words, I thought he was pissed enough about that column to want to address it without actually admitting that he was really responding directly to one a**hole's criticism. Probably doesn't make his generalizations right, but I can't say I blame him. And I do think we'll be hearing that part of the quote taken somewhat out of context some time in the future.

I don't read his blog's comments so I don't know...but I'm also curious about how much of his response is really addressed to to his commenters.

Schilling is what he hates when he makes sweeping generalizations like that.

I like his blog for the sole reason that it gives insight into the inner workings of the team and the game. And I'm glad that he uses it to say nice things about his teammates sometimes (in that same post he gave props to both Daisuke and Beckett, which is never a bad thing to hear). But I don't consider it "required" reading by any measure, and when he bilovates about the media and whatever non-baseball things pop up, it's insufferable. Schilling's a smart and opinionated guy, but that doesn't mean he has to say every single thing that's on his mind.

He could really use an editor too.

CHB is an ass who mangles quotes and says stupid things just to make an impact, but Schilling isn't exactly a saint himself.

This Clemens saga is just another topic for the media chatterers to write/talk about from the tabloids to talk radio. Just like the Jeter doesn't like A-Rod or Manny on Ebay stuff earlier this year.

One curious thing is that Schilling refered to CHB as "she" on his blog:

"Contrary to CHB’s belief, and she may find it hard to believe, I LOVE pitching with Daisuke, I love to be able to see first hand what he brings to the team and the organization."

CHB also has Clemens riding a horse after a previous Yankee championship.


If he can't get basic facts like that right, what's that say about more complex matters.

The media are paid to tell a story. Why bother with facts if they get in the way? That's true of everything from Arod's hitting problems to the lead up to the Iraq War.

The only solution - read widely and especially internationally. Puts things nicely into perspective.

Wjat does CHB mean?

It's Simmons given for "Curly-haired Boyfriend" - said of Shaughnessy by Carl Everett.

Correct SF's?

As a YF that would love to make fun of Schill, I thought his first statement was enough - no need clarify.

Most teams would love to have him. Did anyone expect Schill to go "Oh shucks, we needed him!"? Heh.

Actually the quote came from Carl Everett -- I believe he called him "Gordon Edes' curly haired boyfriend"...

Sorry -- misread the quote, Jim. Indeed, Simmons is credited with the abbreviation.

Need that cup of coffee before I fire up the computer.

An excellent post Paul, thanks. It's frustrating to see the press demeaned. It's a serious concern in our society, because the fourth estate is crucial to a functional democracy. It is unfortunate that venues like the Times and the Globe don't hold themselves to higher standards, on the sports pages and elsewhere.

What, YF, the press never deserves it? For being the lapdogs of the big businesses (who own them) or of government (who censors them) or of the public (who buys the banal stuff)?

Me, I loved Schilling's response to the bloddy sock. For all of the Boston media that defended him, they were vastly overwhelmed by the rest of their bretheren. And name one media member that traveled to Cooperstown and preformed the $100 test it would have taken?

If the baseball media isn't interested in truth for matters as trivial as a sock and a horse, then what hope does the entire professional stand. The Iraq War is the most glaring example. For all the Woodward and Bernstein history, it's a pretty sad present when the most glaring reports come out three to four years after the initial debate.

There really isn't much of a bloody sock controversy. The socks he used in the Yankee game are not the ones in the hall of fame: those were thrown out by Yankee staff. So there's really no way to 'test' anything: why not look at it like this? The guy pitched with one ankle, and even though the Yankees were too stupid/noble/stupidly noble to bunt off the guy every chance they got, he shut them down. With one ankle.

Shaughnessy is a meanspirited, insecure little shrew. Occasionally, he'll write a worthy piece, like the one he penned the day after Matsuzaka signed, but these are few and far between.

He doesn't like Schilling and that's fine, but he makes it personal and that really isn't appropriate. He's also one of these guys who routinely seems to forget that his job is to tell the story and provide his observations on the story - not become the story~

This feud is another disgusting example of grown men acting like spoiled children. Neither seems to realize that fame does not equal a free pass to behave in any way you choose...

Oh yeah, I thought I saw something else that might have made Curt mad. Buster Olney's blog entry yesterday was titled: "Curt's Words Ring Hollow." Basically he said that Curt's open questioning about whether the Sox may or may not have been better off w/Clemens then Tavarez was absurd (duh, of course they'd be better with Clemens).

Olney more or less says that Schilling has said all the right things. Which makes the title of the post and the tone of the Tavarez rip more then a little unnecessary. I like Olney and Schilling seems to, too, but this was kind of stupid.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Clemens got up on a horse after they won. The picture of Boggs is more famous but I think Roger got up on one too.

Soog -

I watched everyone of those celebrations and I remember no such thing. And I could find nothing on a search. Not a report or a picture. Whereas Boggs comes up very easily. I'd be very interested to see if I'm wrong. But I think it's one big urban legend.

D1, I think Olney (and others) make a mistake by comparing Clemens to Tavarez when it's pretty clear that the relevant comparison will be Clemens to Lester, in which case Schilling's comments are more defensible. Heck, they're defensible even with Tavarez on the hill. Olney was clearly talking out of his butt on that one.

d1: I read Olney's column too (saw the headline, which was basically a tabloid attempt to get clicks - it was on the ESPN homepage). The headline rang false: Olney basically said that the only thing that "rang hollow" was Schilling backing Tavarez over Clemens, but Olney probably knew that Schill was just going to bat for a teammate. How bad would it have reflected on Schill if he had gone on record as saying Tavarez was a POS, that he can't believe that the Sox missed a chance to replace him? He's still his teammate, so Schill was doing an (amateur) diplomat's work. Olney (or, the producers, more likely) twisted that column headline to read differently than the substance revealed. It was certainly suspect. I didn't think it was worth a full thread, but I did notice it.

Finally got around to reading Callaghan's take on Rajah landing in the bronx- boy- he really didn't pull any punches on that on,huh? While it basically sums up my feelings on the deal, this struck me as a little over the top:

Every pitcher grows old and breaks down some day, and that day is fast approaching for Clemens. You know how some athletes don’t want to leave the game if they have one more great performance in them? Roger doesn’t want to leave while he has one more big payday in him. He wants to grow old on somebody’s dime, and right now, that somebody is wearing a white turtleneck and conversing with the coat rack in his New York apartment.

Zing! Sure big stein's mental capacity has been called into quesiton of late, but wow. Took the gloves off on that on.

Nate, you've got it wrong. "Coat Rack" is Steinbrenner's pet nickname for Brian Cashman.


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